ONLY tracking REAL visitors....???

[RFH Customer: jigsawsrusdotcom]

ANY help or advice (doesn't have to be ASP/VBScript related although that is what we are well-versed with, but I'll listen to any potential solution!) will be appreciated...

We really need/would like to know when REAL visitors are hitting our site(s) in a dynamic, sort of "now", way. We currently have a working solution tracking SessionID's and am using HTTP_USER_AGENT to determine the session data (and therefore what type of "visitor" it is) using global.asa and have implemented an object/LookupTake (an ASP recordset in memory which is the only safe way to do this because of threading issues) and it works a treat........apart from we get everything, and I mean all the dirty little bots, google, crawlers, site-downloaders etc. making the numbers unusable. Okay, we can deal with the length of the Session (default 20mins) etc. but the VAST numbers of these pesky things sloping around the www and our sites makes all "current" visitor numbers difficult at best and useless at worst!

I have built an "exclusion" list but as quick as I add a bot or two to that list, 10 new one's are flagged and looking around the www it seems that there are at least 30k PLUS variations in HTTP_USER_AGENT and it grows daily :-(

Any advice how to determine that Mrs Miggins is sat at her PC and she is currently browsing a site of ours?

(if this is the "wrong" forum, or it makes no sense - sorry in advance!)

Regards,

Martin

[RFH Reseller: balexandre]

the only thing is to ask for user/pwd and then you can track the users...

http://www.2enetworx.com/dev/ has one WhosOn feature in http://www.2enetworx.com/dev/whoson.asp

you can learn how to accomplish that using : http://www.2enetworx.com/dev/samples/memwhoson.asp

hope it helps

[RFH Reseller: MooMF]

Doesn't give real-time information, but Google Analytics is pretty good at filtering out spiders, etc.

Jim.

[RFH Reseller: Rappie]

I am happly using Google Analytics for the past few years now. Works like a charm. You can make the whole path of your visitors visble, from the point they are entering your website till they leave.

[RFH Reseller: askjim]

I also agree that google analytics is great, and lots of bots are auto filtered out.

Do you really need real time stats? What is the purpose of such data?

[RFH Reseller: Mark Voss]

Have a look at MetaTraffic - the default report is "Who's Online".

[RFH Customer: jigsawsrusdotcom]

Have a look at MetaTraffic - the default report is "Who's Online".

Hi Mark,

Near enough exactly what we want and at $125 - approx. £70 for 5 sites - it looks to be a bargain. Many, many thanks

Oh, and thanks to all the other replies - your thoughts and input was and is much appreciated

[RFH Reseller: Mark Voss]

If the licence is for the five Jigsaw sites and four of them are aliases to one hosted site, surlely a single site licence would suffice?

Use MySQL or MS SQL as the back-end database - although Access works, it's nowhere near as rubust and I find it slow once you've got thousands of records.

[RFH Customer: jigsawsrusdotcom]

If the licence is for the five Jigsaw sites and four of them are aliases to one hosted site, surlely a single site licence would suffice?

Use MySQL of MSSQL as the back-end database - although Access works, it's nowhere near as rubust and I find it slow once you've got thousands of records.

Hi Mark,

No, we have other sites that we own and manage so the lic will get used up! - However, at sometime this year I really have to move away from MSAccess. It is so easy to use and has helped get all our sites off the ground but some sites now get busier than we could have thought and we get locking problems and the site can be slow as well. As we do all our own IT builds/coding/support etc. - 25yrs in IT has saved us £'s and £'s in IT costs - it has to fit in around me, and my coding "skills" and time.

Probably going to move to SQLServer (when I finally get around to reading my "From Access To SQL Server" book )

I haven't read much yet, but from what you have posted I am guessing that MT doesn't support SQLServer!

[RFH Reseller: Mark Voss]

I haven't read much yet, but from what you have posted I am guessing that MT doesn't support SQLServer!

It does - I use it on both MS SQL Server and MySQL as well as MS Access.